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Tuesday, March 01, 2016

 
Hitlers aren't "tameable"

by digby


A midwestern couple named Jon and Elsa Sands wrote a letter to the editor that's making the rounds:

Sir, My wife and I are affluent Americans with postgraduate degrees. We are socially liberal and fiscally mildly conservative. We are not the sans-culottes you see as the prototypical Trump voter. We are well aware of his vulgarity and nous deficiency yet we contemplate voting for him. Why?

Electing the standard-bearer of the Democratic Party seems purposeless. The neanderthal Republicans barely respected the legitimacy of Bill Clinton’s or Barack Obama’s election, let alone that of Hillary who would arrive tainted with scandal and the email lapses hanging over her head. We would get four years of gridlock and “hearings”. The Republican tribunes, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, are backward, foolish and inexperienced. John Kasich, a moderate with extensive governmental experience and a willingness to compromise, is an also-ran. That leaves The Donald, really a moderate in wolf’s garb, who would owe nothing to either party and might strike deals, for instance on tax reform.

Yes, we could be like the good citizens who voted for a “tameable” Hitler in 1933 to get things back on track. But the alternatives look worse.


I have listened to a whole lot of Trump's speeches, more than I care to admit. (I get OAN network which shows almost all of them in complete form with no talking heads.) I listen to what he says.

This woman does not, obviously. She hears what she wants to hear and filters out the rest:

Sands, who teaches English to refugees and described herself as a big supporter of refugee resettlement, said that even though Trump is a “big jerk, brash, over the top and egomaniacal” he was also a “big-mouth pragmatist who can get things done.” She also said that he was a moderate who “doesn’t go around hating people” and called him a “brilliant communicator.”

“He tends to be flamboyant and like New Yorkers talks in hyperbole,” Sands said. “He exaggerated it to get attention, because a moderate cannot run in the Republican Party.” Sands believes that the media has “distorted” Trump’s statements and are making him out to be someone they want him to be.

"He's not one of them," Sands said. "He's a Rockefeller Republican. There aren't any more of those around."

The couple believes that the Republicans consider Democratic presidents to be illegitimate and will not make deals or compromise with them. “They set out to destroy Obama,” Sands said. “What are they going to do to Hillary who carries all this baggage with her?”

Sands, who voted for Obama in 2008, and who has worked for liberal causes, said it was Trump who supported Planned Parenthood after the Republicans “trashed it.”

She said that the Republican party leadership dislike Trump because they believe he will destroy the party. “That might be a reason to vote for him,” she said.

She said that with a “corrupt Hillary, silly little Rubio, and mean-spirited Ted Cruz,” they have “nowhere else to go” besides Trump, even though she admitted she was nervous about considering voting for him.

“It’s a very scary hope, if we vote for him, that he might be pragmatic and listen to advisers,” Sands said. “It’s a sorry state we’ve come to that we have Trump running out there and we’re considering voting for him.”

Yes it is. It's terrifying, actually.

He doesn't go around hating people? Seriously?




"Mayor Koch has stated that hate and rancor should be removed from our hearts. I do not think so. I want to hate these muggers and murderers. They should be forced to suffer and, when they kill, they should be executed for their crimes. They must serve as examples so that others will think long and hard before committing a crime or an act of violence." 
"Yes, Mayor Koch. I want to hate these murderers and I always will. I am not looking to psychoanalyze or understand them. I am looking to punish them. If the punishment is strong, the attacks on innocent people will stop. I recently watched a newscast trying to explain the "anger in these young men." I no longer want to understand their anger. I want them to understand our anger. I want them to be afraid.


They were innocent.

When they were released and the city settled years later he called the settlement "a disgrace."

And then there's this:












Just because Trump promises to make the trains run on time and likes dogs and children, it doesn't make him a moderate.