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Thursday, July 14, 2016

 
Open Carry Rules For RNC: Black & White Versions
 by Spocko
The Wall Street Journal gives the rundown of what is allowed in the area of the RNC.

Considering all open carriers: Who is going to be in more danger of being arrested for suspicious behavior before the event? During? After?

    White men 

    Black men

I think many of the black men considering open carry will be arrested before the event on some trumped up charge, just to keep them out of the picture.  The ones who make it through will be fine, unless there is a panic. We all know what happened to the last black guy who open carried at a protest and there was a panic.

I believe many of the white men considering open carry won't be arrested before the event. The government treats the white Republican men differently, even if they have a previous criminal history of protesting with guns. (See Bundy Ranch and Malheur refuge stories below)

I do predict that some open carriers will be arrested at the event. They want to show how peaceful they are and how they aren't afraid of the police. They want to prove average people shouldn't be afraid of them.
In my experience the people who open carry work closely with local law enforcement in advance of events. They tell them who they are, where they will be, and what they will be doing at what time. They know the state and local laws cold (which they will happily gunsplain to you). The also know which public locations are safe as well as which private businesses welcome them.
After the protect any arrested open carriers will sue for false arrest and declare that their 2nd Amendment and 1st Amendment rights were infringed. (They might even get the ACLU to help them!)

Win or lose, the image of an open carrier being peacefully arrested by big government will be used to fuel their righteous anger. Photos will show the open carriers are the real victims and their rights are under siege at all times, everywhere, by everyone.

Do we use trumped up charges or just old ones? 

The government will use trumped up or old charges for white Oath Keepers too. But the government won't try as hard to arrest them as they will to arrest peaceful democratic protesters. I think that is a mistake and a waste of resources, but arresting dirty hippies is always on the to do list. But why won't they arrest more in advance?

I think it's because the police expect the RW white gun guys to follow the rules. Of course if they don't, it they screw up and have an accident, they are given a pass because they have "good intentions." They also believe that in a tense situation RW white guys will comply with their orders.

The idea that is pushed by the gun carriers is that protestors with guns will help the police in a shoot out. Do police believe white open carriers are automatically on the side of police? Do they feel the same about open carriers of other colors?

One thing we do know is that some white people who protest with guns aren't on the side of government law enforcement--at all.

The Bundy Gang's White Gun Privilege: 
Feds: "We'll give you two years to stop pointing your guns at us!"

        Eric Parker near Bundy Ranch NV,  
April 12, 2014 Photo credit: Reuters/Jim Urquhart
Remember this guy, Eric Parker? Here he is in April of 2014 aiming his rifle at federal agents near the Bundy Ranch in Nevada. He also went up to Burns Oregon to protest, but wasn't on site at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in December 2015.


Read more here: http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article63878682.html#storylink=cpy
         Eric Parker April 12, 2014 Photo credit: Reuters/Jim Urquhart
The government treated Parker and his buddies,white men pointing guns at the feds, with fear and respect.

The government didn't arrest them at the time because they didn't want to have an incident. This is a perfectly rational thing to do, since it avoids bloodshed. After the event is over, the arrests begin at a time and place of the government's choosing. (I love this phrase by the way, it sounds so badass.)

However, instead of arresting and prosecuting those people right away, I believe deals were cut in exchange for no further protesting, or for turning state's evidence on others in the group.  You will note that people who stopped going armed to protests made statements in the media saying that what happened in Malheur was wrong.

However, in a big group, not everyone gets the memo to stop poking the tiger.
I think these are the people who will be showing up at RNC to protest while openly carrying. They want to give the impression to the public that they are good people to be trusted. But whatever happened to that group of white men who protested with guns?

It turns out that the government shouldn't have trusted them. Some didn't honor their agreements, others ignored the conditions they got in exchange for not being arrested. Imagine that, an anti-government group going back on their word with the government! So now the government gets to arrest them with stronger evidence. Yay for justice, but it took two years too long.

In March of 2016, in the state of Idaho, the government acted:
FBI Raids Going Down: More Bundys Arrested, Eric Parker And Other Militants 
--- Story from Freak Out Nation: Making Tea Partiers Cry Since 2009

Post Event Actions Black Vs. White.

I'm actually an optimist, not an alarmist. All this open carry might go smoothly for both black and white open carriers. Everyone might remain calm and there might not be any "bad apples" who didn't get the memo to be chill.

If all goes swimmingly the difference between the two groups will be how law enforcement treats them and tracks them after the event.

Based on this history of white men with guns protesting, after the event law enforcement might contact them. "Hey, we know who you are. What you did was stupid and dangerous, just don't do it again." This is another example of white gun privilege.

After the event law enforcement will contact the black men. "You are a troublemaker and a pot stirrer. We have our eyes on you. One slip up and bam, you are a felon with no gun rights. Stop doing this. Don't be stupid, you are just putting yourself in danger."

Protectors Vs. Thugs on Fox News

A safe open carry event will be positioned by the media (especially the RW media) differently depending on the color of the group that successfully does it.

For the white guys, photos of their restrain while armed will be praised. "See? Nothing happened. Nobody got shot. Everyone got scared for nothing. They are the good guys."

 For the black guys photos of their restrain while armed will be used to show they are violent extremists waiting to riot.
 I point to the time one unarmed New Black Panther at a polling place door made Sean Hannity lose his mind.  "He is intimidating voters! People feared for their lives!"
Now I could describe what would happen if there is an incident, but I have to spend some time fixing my engines before I can slingshot around the Sun for a look at the future. Maybe next week.

But here's a question. What if we don't "dodge a bullet" and something bad happens with all these open carriers?  Would it get people in Ohio to say, "Hey, we should CHANGE THIS LAW! Why are we putting ourselves in this stupid position?"

And if they do, what can be done to get their wish fulfilled before the NRA kills any change? Why don't we prepare for that future?