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HOST: "His title is the special presidential envoy to the global coalition to counter ISIS. How is it that the president doesn't know his -- the point person in the battle against ISIS?"

MULVANEY: "You know the answer to that, the administration is thousand -- the executive branch of government is millions of people. I have no idea who that person is."

HOST: "You don't know Brett McGurk."

MULVANEY: "Never heard of him until yesterday. There is an Obama appointee who saw an opportunity."

HOST: "He was a Rehnquist clerk, he served throughout the Bush administration, he was a lifelong Republican, he is not an Obama appointee."

MULVANEY: "Did he take that position under the Obama administration?"

HOST: "He was held over from the Bush administration. This is not a Democrat, sir."

MULVANEY: "I'm certain he is well known in the folks who follow this topic. The fact that the president of the United States doesn't know him I don't think should cause anybody any concern."